Lifting Others Up Doesn't Dim Your Light
Sugar, Spice & Spirits Podcast · Episode 5 · Natalie Pilkinton, Mindy Price & Kelly Williams · 17 min
The hosts talk about what it means to lift other people up, plus a round of bloopers and outtakes from behind the scenes.
EP5 Lifting Others Up
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Speaker 1: One, two, three. Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Sugar, Spice, and Spirits. I am one of your hosts, Mindy Price, along with my co-collaborators,
Speaker 1: Kelly Williams
Speaker 1: Natalie Pilkinton
Speaker 1: And notice how I did that? I made sure they introduced themselves. Natalie taught me that so that I don't mess up on this one's name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Williams is so hard to pronounce and remember.
Speaker 1: It's really new for me. You're allowed. So in all seriousness, super excited to have you. Thank you so much for tuning in today for another episode. Today we're going to share with you first the sip of the day. And this one is very special. Just a few simple ingredients that I want
Speaker 1: I know, it is, is new.
Speaker 1: to share with you, but the way you get to it is by subscribing to our newsletter at sugar, spice and spirits.com. Be sure you subscribe and then answer the email because they have to make sure you actually want to hear from us. We'll share with you a lot of different recipes, some tips on business life and real estate, and hopefully we can have a little fun together. You can also send us show topics there as well. So the sip of the day happens to be mine and I was inspired because I was, why did I find that tequila y'all? I just actually forgot.
Speaker 1: The coconut.
Speaker 1: Remember the coconut? Was it in Vegas? No, we were actually at your son Ryan's wedding. Oh, OK. We were at your son Ryan's wedding and we were with some friends and I look over and there's an 1800 coconut tequila.
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 1: And so I call our friend Carol over. was like, Carol, come here. Because she's the one that no matter what, she'll take a tequila shot with me. And she knows that I'm going to try really hard to make sure it's a tequila that's not going to hurt too much going down. So we took a shot of it. It was super good. It put us in a great mood. And I thought to myself, my gosh, this would make an amazing tequila margarita. This margarita, my friends, only has three ingredients. I hope you like it.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and give it a try.
Speaker 1: Did you tell the flavor?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you ever see those little flavor packets, Kelly, around or you, they're so good. And there's a red one and it's chamoy and you just squeeze it. I need to figure out what it is. It's the best that I've ever had and we'll have to do it again. And you don't even need the tahini.
Speaker 1: You know, the Mexican stores and the squeezy
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Speaker 1: It's really fun when you're traveling to different parts of the country too and you're like, do you have tahini or chamoy? And they're like, what? Here in Texas, they know what we're talking about and they happen to like it a lot. So today, what are we talking about? Well, we are, we had a conversation or actually had a conversation with somebody. It was a little bit uncomfortable. That episode is coming, but it was about how oftentimes
Speaker 1: There's individuals who feel like whether they're an entrepreneur, a solopreneur, or somebody coming up in their career, that if they cheer somebody else on, they're gonna dim the light on themselves. And I just have to say, y'all, that is so incredibly disappointing. Thinking that if you cheer somebody else on, you're not lifting yourself up.
Speaker 1: you if you look here, I am wearing a chain that I would normally never wear in my everyday attire. I out there like, what are you wearing? And if you can't see it, it is a chain that says.
Speaker 1: You're rocking that!
Speaker 1: boss and I actually rece from Evan Apple of commun on his podcast. I got a coffee coffee as well as this. And I love it so much. I took it. It was super fun. my mentor. His name is mar have not seen him, he is business principles on, across time and how they'
Speaker 1: and I've received so many gifts from him over the years. And this is one, this was actually my first one. It came with some spices. So I have my own set of drumsticks. I have this right here. And then I just got, when I got back from Ireland, I received this candle. That's so cool. Like this was two days ago. This candle that it lights up, it's the rock star over here. This one made me put my little Texas A coaster here. I don't know if you can see it or not.
Speaker 1: But this is Rockstar right here.
Speaker 1: Well, this one's even orange, like the longhorns, so I just went with it. sorry.
Speaker 1: My mentor also sent me this. know, Mark could think of me as a competitor. He's so much further ahead of me than I am in where I'm at in my speaking journey. Even though I've been speaking for over 20 years, I haven't been headlining for 20 years. I've been headlining for several years, but not as many as him. And this guy has invested in me. He doesn't see me as a competitor. He, like me, gets so much fulfillment.
Speaker 1: out of helping others. And he sent me this book. I just actually started reading it last night. It's called Growing Your Business, What You Need to Know, What You Need to Do. And it's by Marc LeBlanc. And he's constantly sending me these things and motivating me and making sure I'm staying clear on my path because I've shared with him my purpose, my passion, where I'm at, why I'm doing this. And I've started
Speaker 1: remembering several years back, y'all, I can remember whenever I was with another company and we had a huge audience, we were presenting something and it was actually for a big group of speakers who were trying to speak to these individuals so that they would hire them. It was so cutthroat. It was awful. Now let's fast forward. I've seen it get better.
Speaker 1: But then I also see those individuals, not just speakers, but solopreneurs and entrepreneurs where they feel like if they promote somebody, it takes away from them. I think oftentimes, and I'm so curious to see what you all think about it with social media and everything, not wanting to push or promote or repost or comment on somebody else's story in fear that you're not going to receive that back or you're getting into their audience.
Speaker 1: and they don't wanna do that. To me, and I could be totally wrong and the algorithms could say never do that, to me, collaboration and helping others and lifting others up is so much more important. I do what I do now because I wanna help others. I'm not worried if somebody's my competitor. Heck, let me make them better than me because guess what? If I help them, hopefully they're gonna turn around and pay it forward and help me in areas that I can be helped.
Speaker 1: So if there's just one thing today that you could take away from this episode is don't be afraid that you're gonna dim your light by lifting others up. Natalie, I'm curious what you think about that.
Speaker 1: Natalie's not feeling great.
Speaker 2: under the weather today.
Speaker 2: So Kelly, I'm curious what you think about that.
Speaker 2: So I guess the way I look at it is if I were your mentor and I was giving you some guidance and I'm giving you a pathway to follow, I would want nothing more than for you to be successful because then that gives merit to what I'm teaching you. If you are out there and all of a sudden, maybe you top bill me, but I'm in the audience or whatever and someone says, look how successful she is. She's now five stars.
Speaker 2: Well, guess what? Kelly taught her everything she knows or a portion of what she knows or this particular speaking engagement came directly from what Kelly taught her. So all that does is make someone in the audience say, wow, I'm sure Kelly didn't teach her everything she knows. So maybe it's worth me pursuing some of Kelly's teachings as well. So I think you're right. I think it's going to build up your merit, your credibility, the credibility of Kelly or
Speaker 2: you know, your other mentors and really open those doors for people who are really wanting to learn and wanting to get out there and be successful in whatever, you know, whatever, you know, attitude. Exactly. I mean, it doesn't really matter, but if I'm going to teach you to do something, I want you to be as successful at it as possible because like I said, I'll reiterate again, that just brings merit on to me in that my teachings are valuable, not just to you.
Speaker 2: but to anyone else that learns from you. So to me, I think it's a positive.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. think it's positive. You know, somebody that you and I both know, Natalie, the name Carol Marple, should be super familiar to you. I can remember going through her training class in 1996. Let me date myself. Remember y'all, it two when I got started. And we went around the room and she said, what do you want to do in this industry? And I was like, well, at first I didn't want to do anything. And what I realized was listening to her, being mentored by her.
Speaker 2: I knew that there was so much that I actually wanted to do. And okay, I was 19. All right, not two. And I said to her, listen, I'm like, listen, don't take this the wrong way. I don't want you to get fired, but I want your job. And she remembered that. And you know what? To this day, a lot of what I've accomplished has been by her because she invested in me. She lifted me up. And eventually she said, I could have never imagined.
Speaker 2: where you went. I'm like, whoa, let's think about this. I would not be where I am today had you not invested in me. And now Natalie, like you in real estate, when she transitioned out of that industry, she's in real estate and breaking goals and boundaries and everything that she does. But you know, what are your I'm sure you've seen this because you've been in some very competitive environment.
Speaker 2: immensely successful.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 2: Very competitive, I think first and foremost, principally centered people is who I like to surround myself with. I have been in situations at companies that the people that I work with are out for my demise. When we've all been in agreeance that something's going to happen and then they just completely go the opposite direction. And you're like, what is going on? I'm standing on principle. They're standing on ludicrisy. don't know. I'm like, what are you doing? but I think in life.
Speaker 2: It gets so much easier and so much better. One, if you're not lying, you're not manipulative. You're standing on principle. It's like with your kids, right? You want your kids to do well. You want your students to do well. You want your coworkers to do well. If, if my coworker is shining, if my business partner is shining, that means I'm shining. Like it's a, it's just an illumination. It's, it's a more wattage coming in, which is so important with the synergy. Now.
Speaker 2: You may get a speaking gig that because you being a business speaker, speaking on business and more than just multifamily, you speak to different kinds of groups and different areas. But someone may come in and say, they want somebody to speak on real estate, real estate focused or investing. And you're like, got just the person for you. Like there's a collaboration that goes there. And if somebody's like, home health is where we're going. And we need somebody who can talk on.
Speaker 2: on the compassionate side of the business and running the team and how do you, how do you keep your team motivated and not desensitize? You know exactly who to go to. I think as the type of person you choose to be every day when you wake up and go to work, you know, it's, remember there was this person that started with me and she, like I was having a conversation with her and I think she thought something completely different. said, I'm trying to get us on the same page and have a complete understanding.
Speaker 3: Of what's going on here. It's not a riding a bus over you. I'm having a conversation with you one-on-one professional to professional. And this is the way we're doing things to move forward. wasn't a talk down to or anything like that. Very quickly, people who are not good people will show their colors. Typically, if it's in a professional situation, I would just try and not work with those people. Cause you know, I'm really trying to
Speaker 3: point out the other side, it's not always, you know, rainbows, right? Sometimes you got some assholes in there. So how do you differentiate yourself when you're trying to shine bright and you got somebody who's trying to back up a bus over you? So you definitely got to set up boundaries and try and limit who you work with on your team and set that expectation and be very clear on what that expectation is. I've also, as I've gotten older, is I've chosen not to work with certain people because of the bull crap that they put you through. It's like life is too short.
Speaker 3: to work with people who are the negative downers that won't lift you up, that are against you because you're in the same business or industry. Like, you know what, just shine bright, bring up your friends, bring up, and they don't even have to be your friend, but invest in people who will invest in you and don't expect something from everybody, but just be a better person overall and the rest will fall into
Speaker 3: place. Cheers to that. And when you can put your head on your pillow at night and know that you've done right by yourself, by your industry, by your co-workers, by your friends, by your family, then what better gratitude is that to give yourself than peace of mind? Yeah, I mean that's huge.
Speaker 3: Cheers to that.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to know why do you think that there's so many people that are wired to think there's only one seat at the table? There's only one person that's that leader.
Speaker 1: Short-sightedness I think they cut off their nose despite their face their fear. powerful people Who don't need the praise that are confident? Are very scary for those that Lack that confidence or the skill set. they're lacking somewhere. So they have to bring you down So they try and pull you down bring you down back up that bus whatever they got to do and it's it's really not your
Speaker 1: your priority to give them that opportunity either. So that's where I think insulating yourself and making sure that you're setting boundaries and not reacting to somebody who is gonna be in that situation, cancerous. The good thing about being a solar entrepreneur is you're by yourself. Entrepreneurial worlds are by yourself, but in an employment world, you're not. You may have to wake up and see Susie's ugly face every day. So.
Speaker 1: How do you handle that? How do you deal with that? And I think how you handle that with class and grace, standing on principle is going to be huge. The other thing is like, my daughter always sends me like videos and Tik Toks and stuff. And she's always like, mom, just thank you for always lifting me up. Thank you. And I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, why, why wouldn't I lift you up? You're my offspring. You're beautiful. You're gorgeous. You're smart. You're everything. And she's like, there's just some moms that just don't, that are jealous of their children. And I'm like, I can't, I cannot imagine.
Speaker 1: not lifting your kids up and I think that's kind of the same not that your coworkers or business partners or your kids but I want nothing more in life than to see the people around me succeed. yeah and that definitely includes my family and my household my friends my girlfriends my boyfriends everybody not that I have multiple boyfriends.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of wondering, zip heavens.
Speaker 1: show.
Speaker 2: I want my kid to be successful so when I get old she can take care of me.
Speaker 2: Mine keeps threatening me. Say that again and remember what happens in the nursing home. Okay, so Kelly, what do you think? So I'm curious because I want to draw this back, but why is it that there's so many folks that, there's so many people that think there's only one seat at the table. There's only one person in the league.
Speaker 2: You know, coming from a healthcare background, I always did one-on-one care with my patients for the most part. So was a very autonomous situation. I made the care plan. I made the decision as to which route the patients were gonna take in their recovery and their rehab. And a lot of times I would give that direction to some of the therapists below me. And I will tell you, when I first graduated from physical therapy school in like 1990,
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